Khandana Bhava Bandhana Lecture 11 on 07 July 2019
We are discussing the Avatara Stotra, Kandana Bava Bandana. We have come up to this ..niṣkâraṇa-bhakata-caraṇa tyaji jâti-kula-mâna|| niṣkâraṇa-bhakata-caraṇa – an Avatara, gives refuge to his devotees without any expectation. but even the expectation you have to do Sadhana, then only I will be available to you. that expectation is not there from God’s side. But it will there from our side. Why? This much food mother is ready to give. But can the baby eat so much of food? only a grown up person can eat so much of food. So he from his side this is the explanation.
whatever we are ready that much only he can give. He is not saying I will give you this much. You go to the ocean and give me this much water. will the ocean say take only this much water. You take as much water as you wish; but it depends upon what utensil you have taken. If it is a small glass, you can only take. You can't complain. Somebody else brings a tanker, he can take a tanker. it is not a condition on God's Side. It is a condition from our side, first explanation.
Not even the real explanation is, from God’s view point, who are we? Only God. Therefore, What is the question of I am very compassionate to myself. will I ever say? Will I ever thank myself? You have been So kind to me. I am ever grateful. Do I say it to myself? God can’t expect anything from himself. He doesn’t need to expect. So the real explanation is that he doesn’t look at the world as we look upon it. In His eyes there is no world. In His eyes there is no bound soul. Even in Jeevan muktha’s mind, doesn’t see any limitations.
That is why niṣkâraṇa-bhakata-charaṇa – he is a sarana, refuge, for whom only for the Bhakthas. Who is a baktha? A fit recipient is a baktha. He is ready to give refuge to everybody. But we refuse to take refuge in him. Do you Understand the difference between refusing and Refuge. he wants to give us refuge. But we refuse to take refuge in him. It is our problem. .
niṣkâraṇa-bhakata-charaṇa – we discussed.
tyaji jâti-kula-mâna- he doesn’t make a distinction. These are the things which make distinction. I am a high caste person, my family is a very respectable family..etc, etc.
Sri Ramakrishna doesn’t have. We have to Connect it with his life. He could go clean The lavatory of a rashik (lavatory cleaner). They did not mention the name. The rashiks lavatory he went and cleaned and prayed and used to wipe it to wipe it with his own long hair.
What do we do? If at all we do first we put on a gloves, and gas mask and then we Go and just do like it as quickly as possible throw some water out there & run out as soon as possible. But we do it deliberately. Why? What is the reason There are two reasons are there. one reason is there is no low caste or high caste. That is What we are going to discuss in Bagavad Gita
cātur-varṇyaṁ mayā sṛṣṭaṁ guṇa-karma-vibhāgaśaḥ
tasya kartāram api māṁ viddhy akartāram avyayam(G4.13)
So caste is not by birth. Caste is through one’s what type of character the person has. Character means it is consisting of three Gunas. Is it Sathvika, Character? Is it Rajasika character? Or is it Thamasika Character. And what type of activities these persons do - appropriate activities according to their character.
A thamasic fellow, he is fit only to do the lowest type of work. what is the lowest type of work that which doesn't require too much of thinking. Even best thing is not to think at all. mechanical work. that is Thamasic person.
Rajasika person, inventive person. He wants to invent everything. Very enthusiastic.
Sathvika person, he doesn't want to involve in only the most needed activities activities for survival of the body. Rest of the time he is quite ready. This is what Sri Ramakrishna describes in His Gospel. A Sathvika baktha, perhaps his houses dilapidated, very Holy house. He doesn’t care to repair it. And he will be meditating under his Mosquito curtain whole night.
Day time he is found sleeping. People think this man perhaps didn’t get sleep at night. So he's sleeping now. No he was awake whole night. If you wake up at night don’t try to go to sleep. You may not get sleep. But try to meditate. Very quickly sleep is coming. (Laughter).
Ok. So what are you talking about? Sathvika person. A Sathvika person doesn't Run after any activity. Minimum that he wants. A Thamasika person also wants the minimum type of activity. That is where the similarity ends. But the Thamasika person body is inactive, mind also inactive.
A Sathvika person body is highly alert. Very calm. Serene. But the mind is always fixed upon God.
You have to clearly understand a Sathvika person's mind cannot think lowly type of things. It is impossible for him to think. The only thing he can think about is God and nothing else. And this is the understanding we must have.
The receiving of the grace is Dependent upon how we how much weight can receive and retain; not only receive, retain.
No. they are not contradicting. it he is it is premarpana samadarsan, we are going to come to that.
His love is always equal. But whether this person is capable of removing. Vikshane Moha Jaay. Sri Ramakrishna’s he has got Gnana anjana, he is looking upon everybody. Then why you are attending the class, even after he is looking at you. He is seeing you. You are not able to receive it. This is the truth.
So only some people whom he knows, he will give that special vision so that the moha- the delusion, the Maya, the avidya totally disappears. His vision is equal sighted. But whether, we are capable of receiving. There are, so many things to understand.
Suppose you say, He is all powerful. Why can't he give me liberation? You know what Sri Ramakrishna said? it is like taking a person touching hold of of his neck & dragging him through the stretch to the top of a mountain.
It is very injurious to that person. So, he will give knowledge – Vikshane Moha - means ignorance, but that ignorance need not be interpreted from spiritual as spiritual ignorance.
A scientist is ignorant about a scientific truth. If he prays to God, what do you think he will get? An insight it to his knowledge. A poet, kalidasa, we say kalidasa. Lattu , how he become so wise. He was illiterate and yet he was the most learned person. Real pandita. Panditha: samadarshina. How did he attain that knowledge? By the grace of Sri Ramakrishna Swami Adbuthanandar
You have to Understand we also have to get ready. Ours also interpreted in another way, whoever puts on that gnana anjana, his moha will be destroyed. You follow. There is no contradiction. from God of Gods of you are talking about from God’s point of view? Or are we talking from our point of view.
niṣkâraṇa-bhakata-charaṇa tyaji jâti-kula-mâna – he cannot have jati. Because He knows we are all His children. That’s why, Sri Ramakrishna says devotees have no caste. It is non devotees who make the caste. In fact a true devotee never sees any distinction.
vidya-vinaya-sampanne brahmane gavi hastini
suni caiva sva-pake ca panditah sama-darsinah(G 5 /18)
Pandita means those who have self knowledge. In their eyes, a dog, a dog eater, an elephant, a cow and most humble learned Brahmana – every object in other words, is divine. There no object, which is not divine. Sri Rama Krishna corroborates it. one day I saw a wicked man. And then I saw even in him, the divine Mother’s power is vibrating.
In fact Sri Ramakrishna goes to the extent, that wicked people are very necessary. If you are a good person, you can't collect your rent. (Laughter). Ya. You know one Srinivas use to come here. He bought a house here. Then I was here. They bought from one fellow. One rowdy type of fellow was in rent. The owner sold the house. They went & told the dweller, we bought the house. You vacate. We want to move in.
He is not vacating. These fellows could not do anything. The sold it another Goonda. That fellow came and said, I am giving you 2 days if you don't go, I know how to move you out. That night itself the house was vacated.
Sri Ramakrishna was telling, there was a Zamindar. He used to have a goonda; people used to shiver, by hearing his name like that. If he sends a mild fellow, like me and they will be telling Babu, babu, 3 years it is raining, there is no there is no harvest we can’t give and I will come back. Before this fellow comes they are waiting with the rent at the outskirts of the village, please take the rent. They are also necessary.
I am telling you a great thing. China is making so many forward stride. What is the reason? They are all Musalmans. Musalman you know who is a Musalman? Not muslim? Musalam man ithi musalman: he who fears a rod is a musalmaan.
Indians you know, suppose the president of china takes over, next day all the streets will be cleaned. There will be no electricity lag, all trains aero planes trucks busses will be moving systematically - and all those things. I am telling you
America or any democratic country, people are not ready for democracy. That is why I call it democracy – de monocracy. It is true. Some force, fear has to be generated, otherwise it won’t work.
The balance should be we must be a wise and intelligent person. That is Raja dharma. That is why Mahabharata shantiparva. Bhishma is telling, if you are a goody goody king, nobody is to gain. In fact yudhishtira was a goody goody king. That is why, he had to suffer, wife had to suffer his brother had to suffer and everybody had to suffer. Had he been a strong fellow then he would not have gone through all these things.
Yes. I am talking from the worldly point of view. There must be fear in people. It is fear which makes things run.
if you are running a business or office, if you are working with you don't fear you, they will not your office, your business, everything will go ransack. They must fear you. But if you are also not only fearsome, but a person who is just and who like this people, wish their welfare, Swami Ranganathanadaji Maharaj, used to say a benevolent Dictator.
Rubble will be rubble only. All these fellows are rubble only. There is nothing else. But now if you see Narendra Modi, how much good he is trying to do, in his own capacity. He has got limitations. Because people don't co-operate. But previously, so many years after Independence what were people doing? Corruption, corruption, corruption. This person at least you doing something, and these fellows are all joining together now. all the kouravas are joining together. They wanted to kill him. They wanted to pull him down. Now only they found themselves dasom, dasom.
Anyway, what are we talking about? Jati, kula etc.sam‧pada tava srî‧pada bhava-goṣpada-vâri yathây - In this world if you want to classify, there will be two types of people. Those who are after the wealth. All are after wealth. But some people, a few people are after the wealth of Divine wealth.
some people, a few people are after the wealth of world. What is the comparison? is it at least 30:70, is it 20:80 level 20% worldly wealth, 80 percentage God’s wealth. . Is it so or is it even 10:90. No. what is it? Sampada tava sripada – it is your Lotus feet. This is symbolism. Lotus feet Doesn’t mean feet? It is a symbolic way of saying, oh lord the wealth which is divine which is yours any compared. Whereas the wealth of the world is absolutely nothing. What is the comparison:
bhava-goṣpada-vâri yathây -
gospada means the hoof print of a cow. Goho + Pada=gosh Pada. Go means cow. Pada means foot. in rainy season it puts the foot print. It will be a small mould. and Rain Rain water droplets accumulate there. How much of water is that? And what is the water in the ocean? What is the comparison between this water and ocean water - Samudra
there is no comparison. Not only there is no comparison, in another way of saying, this rain water is coming from where? From the Samudra only. From samudra, the sun is the water distiller. He lifts them up, take them to mountains height and then he will releases this and it comes as rain. This circle is going on and on and on since creation.
So if you have to run after wealth, why do you want to run after in significant worthless wealth. Why not go after the wealth of God? What is the wealth of God? in Sanskrit god is called Baghavan. Who is the Baghavan? Dhan vaan – Dhana Vaan means what? One who “has” is called vaan. Dhana Vaan means one who has dhana. Vidya vaan one who has vidya. Kavitha vaann one who is a poetical talents. . vaan means a person who owns. So Bhaga vaan means he who has Bhaga. What is Bhaga? Here are six. Gnana, Aishwarya, Shakti, Bala, Veerya and Thejus. one who has these 6 qualities in infinite measure is called Bhagavan.
Out of these, what is it we want.? What we all want is Aishwarya. Aishwarya means what? Aishwarya Means wealth. The word wealth immediately what idea it brings to our mind? Wealth means only money. but we don't see vidya is also Aishwarya and guna is also. somebody wonderful singer, Somebody is a great scientist, somebody is a great poet, Somebody is a great administrator, Somebody is a great cook, Somebody is a great speaker, Somebody is a great writer all these are called a small, infinitesimal part of Bhagavan’s Aishwarya –Sampada.
I also spoke, Lakshmi they usually sing on Fridays. Bagyadha Lakshmi Baramma…Last week, by mistake our Swami sang it on a Thursday. He realized it and sang it again on Friday also. I was wondering why he was singing it on Thursday. Thursday is supposed to be Guru day. Guru and Raghavendra swamy & all.
What is that Lakshmi. Lakshmi come in the form of money Lakshmi doesn't mean Money. Lakshmi means Ananda. What for do you need money. Are you going to eat money. You need Andhra Avakkaya if you want to eat money. Otherwise it will not go inside. So what is Lakshmi? Tremendous happiness; bliss within. that is Lakshmi. That is why, Vishnu is ever blissful. Ananda Mahima – Sri Ramakrishna used to address Divine Mother as Ananda Mahima. As an embodiment of Ananda he used to address Holy mother also. Ananda Mahima Like that. So Gnana this is the most important part. I am just dwelling a little bit. you what is suppose you are you have got, you are very hungry but you are supplied with first class food, and you eat it. what do you get? Happiness. What is that Happiness? Knowledge. What is the knowledge? I am very happy man. I have eaten something which I liked very much so I am very happy man.
I am hungry; I got something I don't like, I eat because I have to survive, but I'm a very unhappy Person. Both happiness and unhappiness are thoughts in the mind and every thought is a knowledge. If we can have that Gnana that everything is wonderful, then you don’t need. There are some people who eat only Neem leaves. Yogis are there. One kilo of neem leaves only one person eats. that is his food for the whole day. Year after year. And he is hefty & healthy. Don’t ask me how? Don’t ask me to eat neem leaves. (laughter)
Now I am eating every day neem chutney. Very very bitter. The tax I am paying. That is why I found a way to make it a bit tolerable, mix with chutney powder and a little bit of dhal and mix it like that and Brammarpanam, is first thing in the world.
After that everything tastes So nice. You have to enjoy isn’t it? I found out. This is the way to make everything very tasty. First, eat very bitter one; after that Everything will be wonderful. So Gnana is most important.
Gnana, Aishwarya, Shakti, Bala, Veerya and Tejas. So why Bagawan is Having this six, because he is the srishti Karta. He is not only srishti Karta but also sthithi Karta. He has to sustain; is to protect good people. He has to punish the evil people. So he needs all these weapons.
If you have noticed, Brahma doesn’t have any weapon. Why because his business is only creation. Once baby is created, donated. Then it is Vishnu’s business to take care, whole day he is running. What can my baby eat, How can I nourish my baby? Somebody comes to threaten he must protect him. For that you need lot of weapons.
So Vishnu has got weapons. Then what is God’s third activity? Laya. Laya means, we don’t want to die. So Shiva requested lot of trisulas, to drag us unwillingly, like a cow being dragged to the butcher’s place. so Shiva request trisul and Vishnu requests weapons.
Gnana, Aishwarya, Shakti, Bala, Veerya and Tejas are meant to rule this world. Upanishad is telling asmath suryaha thapathy.
भयादस्याग्निस्तपति भयात्तपति सूर्यः ।
भयादिन्द्रश्च वायुश्च मृत्युर्धावति पञ्चमः ॥ ३ ॥
bhayādasyāgnistapati bhayāttapati sūryaḥ |
bhayādindraśca vāyuśca mṛtyurdhāvati pañcamaḥ ||2.3.3 kato ||
The sun shines because of the fear of Brahman. Vayu flows because of the same fear. Mruthyu – death it is also running because it is terribly frightened of the Para Brahman
You know what is Mruthyu? It is like trimming an apple tree, or a flowering tree. You take it. What for? It looks as though you are destroying. But actually what are you doing? You are making it into a new type of tree. by, what is that called pruning. So Shiva is a pruner. So that recycler. Again a new body will come. Your previous body might come to a new one. My body will go into somebody else?
All these elements are going round. Now the idea of recycling has become popular now. Don’t waste anything. Everything is recycled. It has to be recycled. Otherwise the earth can’t sustain it.
So sam‧pada tava srî‧pada – the wealth of your lotus feet, and Bhava Sampada – if it is not there we have to supply. Bava only is there. Sampada is not there. Bava Sampada – so- the wealth of the world they can never be compared. If at all a comparison, like One drop of water to the water in the ocean. What is the comparison? There is no comparison.
There is no comparison. Therefore, What is the advice? seek the Lotus feet of God. An Avatara comes like a reachable, practically grace of God. Through him we can get anything. We can reach the ocean samudra. Then however y premarpana samadarsana.
Pream arpana- arpana means offering.. So an Avatara comes down out of prema. He is an embodiment of prema. And once prema of Comes, you understand. What is Prema what is Prema? What is love you just translated What is love?
Identity with the other is called love. The mother is I love my baby. What is , she doing, she identifies herself with the baby. This is me in another Form This is called premarpana. Avatara identifies himself with the distress of the whole world. Samadarsana in his eyes. He makes no distinction. He loves everybody. That's why once somebody wrote a letter to Swami Vivekananda in the west. Oh there you should not eat in the restaurants because they eat all non-vegetarian etc. You should not do this. You should not do this. Swami Vivekananda was Very intelligent. He wrote wonderful advice. You send all those materials along with a cook.
Are you come yourself? After there's no letter has ever come. They are all giving advise you know. In foreign countries. This fellow is number. No one is giving advice how to live there. But he's not ready to help you in any way most people are like that. They are the only advisory capacity and nothing else they will do and if you say something more is he knows vedanta a little. it is all Karma phala. What can I do?
So premarpana samadarsana that is that is the most wonderful. samadarsana is a characteristic of pandithya. Pandita samadahrshinaha. Who is a real pandit? In whose eyes there is no difference between impure thing & pure thing. Because we are all children of the same. God same divine mother. premarpana samadarsana . So if anybody can understand an avatra in that way, jagajana-duḥkha jây. Their dhukka will disappear. dhukka is called also thapa. dhukka comes from three sources.
That is why we call Tapa thraya. That is why we utter the word Shanty how many times 3, because the source of reflection is three – Adyathmica, Adhibouthika, and Adidaivika. You understand the distinction. see this from my own body mind Troubles may come. They may be sick body. I may be sick mentally the trouble may come from external things heat cold drought and what is called flooding, mosquitoes, snakes, neighbors, even own some family members also. family members is the greatest troublemakers are one's own family members say they do. Yeah. So any That comes from outside ourselves is called Adidaivika.
The third one is a little bit hard for us to swallow. Adidaivika – bhuthas, pisasas, gods who were angry Etc. Our puranas are full of the stories. because SRI Krishna, deliberately. He wanted to break the pride of Indra previously. All those fellows used to worship Indra.
Krishna said, what has Indra got to do. This Govardhana is giving us everything. . We are neglecting this we're worshipping some useless Indra. . Then let us assume they all of them took his advice and to worship. You know, what happened in that somebody reported to Indra. How could they report? That means is there is a spy among ourselves.
Oh you have you seen your worship is neglected. Now, they are worshipping Govardhana. So two things - they have stopped my worship and I am very jealous of the Govardhana because though he is being worshipped indra is very jealous man; that jealousy full of jealousy virtually anybody doing a little Japa immediately will set obstruction.
You may be thinking maybe this fellow is aiming for my job. I would be jobless. So they also suffer from all these unemployment.
See our puranas are telling this story because it is a temporary job not permanent is a because of some merits of puniya.
te tam bhuktva svarga-lokam visalam
ksine punye martya-lokam visanti
evam trayi-dharmam anuprapanna
gatagatam kama-kama labhante
so it is all jobs. Merits. it's for puniya and ApuNia immediately. We'll send somebody
To make us don't know you are not fit for that job. Where do you want? I give a little money. Enjoy your life and most people are very happy with that. Only some foolish fellows, you know one fellow read this puranas. Every time someone wanted to do some meditation, Indra will send some beautiful lady to tempt . And he wanted to beautiful lady. So he went into the woods and sat down and started by every 5 minutes. You see whether Indra sends a lady.
Indra is not a fool to be deceived by all these stupid fellow. Seriously if somebody does, Indra sends. I'm only making fun. That's not the truth. What is the truth, Indra will help us if we are wanting to have God. because for two reasons one reason is that he knows that one less competition. The More We Get mukthi, then less competition, for him.
Secondly he is an instrument in the hands of God. So why does Indra send, he is our well Wisher, He's our friend. If there are any defects within us of which we are not aware Indra makes us aware. I think I discussed at this point in my past classes. Did I?
Viswamithra. He sent woman. Why? because Viswamithra did not realize he had a desire for woman. He thought that I am beyond all those desires but the moment Indra sent he forgot God everything and he ran after this woman. And you know, what is the result of a all that. Our poor India?
Viswamithra’s the downfall is the the outcome is poor India. Get any relationship what I'm talking about it you make whole wish help with resume after his Escape. Shakuntala, she followed her Father's Footsteps. She married one Dushyantha. she has to do exactly the same thing. Gandarva Vivaha. And then what was the result is son was born but with the son called Bharatha. This is called Bharatha Varsha after his name. It's all because of that fellows mischief our India is to day like this.
I hope you are able to follow what I'm telling you so Viswamithra was made it reminded. You have not conquered your lower passions. first conquer if you want to go to God overcome them not by oppressing them, suppressing them bringing them to the you will notice and conquer them and go beyond.
So Indra is our greatest friend. He's a devatha. So if they have if the gods are displeased then they may create trouble. They will definitely create not out of Revenge to make us remind you are forgetting you're neglecting your duties. They say the Bhagavad-Gita also –
devan bhavayatanena
te deva bhavayantu vah
parasparam bhavayantah
sreyah param avapsyatha
If you please the devadas, they will fulfill your desires. You worship them in gratefulness. They will grant you what you cannot get otherwise.
parasparam bhavayantah
you worship them. He will fulfill your desires. This is how you prosper in this world. And he who doesn't gratefully acknowledge the gifts that are given by the gods-
stayna eva in Saha ra trade that son I from the you stay in here all getting all over great with these things because of God, that's why every time you enjoy something you eat nice food. Whom should you thank
In which form? When you are eating mother, Annapurna It's a remember of Annapoorna now. Oh mother you are coming to me in the form of. Annapurna comes in the form of food; saraswathi comes in the form of vidya. and happiness comes in the form of Lakshmi. So God comes in the form of gNanam. Adyathmica Gnana. God doesn't have any form. These are his forms.
Gnana, karma, bakthi, viveka, vairagya, shanthi all these are different forms of Gods.
So if we are ungrateful he then afflictions Will Come Those afflictions are classified as what are Adidaivika. people don't have lost faith today in gods and goddesses. Anyway one incident. I want to give it to you some Yoganandaji was once traveling with holy mother to Jaipur.
One night. He had a terrible dream. One ferocious goddess appeared and said today I would have finished you but for paramahamsa had asked me not to harm you.
So I am leaving you without harming when you you offer me some nice sweets and she disappeared and next morning. Yoganandaji narrated this to holy mother. She knew it was all true, but then they Reached Jaipur and they were busy going moving from one Temple today other Temple suddenly the roadside there was a small Niche. There was a small goddess being worshiped. Yoganandaji He said mother this is the goddess who appeared to me in my dream, immediately mother asked somebody to purchase some sweets and offered to this Goddess.
They can offer them to this goddess. Now. What is the relationship between that goddess and the Swami Yogananda why she wanted to finish? Yogananda ji - we don't know all those things.
But anyway Sufferings can come from physical body from this world in the form of heat to cold mosquitoes enemies Etc, or they can also come from Gods who are not well pleased with us is three or called Thapa Traya. three types of - three sources of afflictions. So what is the remedy remedy is we have to pray to God. Lead a right life. According to our prarabdha only all this will come.
This is the only way. so if any person worships Avatara, what happens:-
jagajana-duḥkha jây, that person's afflictions will be completely removed. Then Swami Vivekananda is slowly entering into the highest of philosophy about an Avatara
namo namo prabhu vâkya-manâtîta : Namo namo means Salutations to you, salutations to you. So when we in Sanskrit in every language, there is this appear. When you repeat a certain thing twice, it means every time so for example, this fulfilled person went from Village to Village a village to Village. That means not two villages; how many villages many many many villages. like that namo namo is twice used; that means what salutations to you all the time.
Why salutations because I don't know what you are. How can I know what you are because you are Beyond The Body and Beyond they mind. today I will only give you a small hint which we will discuss next time when we meet. So what do this
vâkya-manâtîta
Vakya means speech. speech comes only from the thinking. it where is no thought no speech will come. And mind is the subtlest the highest power. but God is beyond the Mind. Why mind is sustained by God. So whatever is the Karana or the cause is subtler than whatever is the effect so we have a psychological law here the pot can never know about the clay and ornament can never know about the gold.
Why it cannot know and I am just giving you a hint this deep Vedantic truths. Say supposing there is a bangle - golden. And you what do you think is the knowledge of the bangle? I am a bangle. I am a bangle. I wish a good but I am only a bangle. I am not a ring. I am not a necklace. I am not any other ornament but I am just a bangle. That identity, I am just a bangle prevents it from identifying itself with the ring, with the necklace with a hundred thousand this one.
A small pot. All right, pot. But what about the big pot? No, no. No. I am not a big pot and you are you this? No. No, I'm not. That's no I'm only this small that is it stupid fellow. Low caste the big pot of that is a Brahmana. I am in between that's that is why the Pot will never know it is clay. if it were at any given time if that pot forgets its potness and then only it can attain the knowledge. I am the clay. It has got the knowledge of all the objects, Made out of clay.
so what is it we have what is that? What is the clay and for example, I am the pot; we are all pots. God is the clay. How can we know about God we can know it. but we don't know it why because we are identified now at the moment with this only this much I am this body. I am this mind. unless we give the self that is called Viveka, that is called Vairagya.
What is Viveka? I am not body mind is Viveka . then if I am not the body mind I should give up the thought that have they body Mind. then what will be my idea. I am not the body mind. Then I must be somebody what is that somebody I am that Indescribable Divinity. That is the idea. They Karya can never know about the Karana. because Karya is gross Karana is subtle. This is the law. the gross can never know the subtle. but they subtle can know everything about the gross. This is being said in the Upanishads:
Yato Vacho Nivartante, Aprapya Manasa Saha” (Taitriya)
From where the mind and the speech, unable to penetrate, return back. All Upanishadic words.
Namo, Namo prabhu - vâkya-manâtîta and here without Him body mind will not function, because he is existence Body Mind exists; because of His chitsvarupa body-mind become aware; because he's ananda swaroopa body-mind also, body also feels happy and mind also feels happy. This is What we have to know about it. An Avatar knows all about us; but nobody knows about an Avatara. That is why the Lord says in the Gaeta clearly, only those who know –
janma karma ca me divyamevam yo vetti tattvatah
tyaktva deham punar janmanaiti mam eti so 'rjuna(G 4 9)
those who know - about the Incarnation will discuss it today. and we discussed it already if we know about Avatara, I know about myself. if I know about the clay I know all about my potness, because I am only coming out of the clay. So not only I know about myself I know about all the things that came out of clay. Here Clay is only an example : analogy the real clay is God.
If I know God I know everything about the world. What is there to know the whole world is nothing but only God. therefore I at this stage of my development. I can only say salutations to you, salutations to you out of thy grace. If you bestow your grace and then give me your knowledge that I am also you then only I will know. otherwise you are Beyond boy beyond mind. that means so long as I identify myself with body and mind, There is no chance of knowing you.
And what are you then if I give up identification? What do I know about you?
Jyotira jyoti ujala-hṛdikandara tumi tamo-bhañjana hâr
Jyotira jyoti - you are the light of the lights; because even if there is light. it if I don't have eye, I will not know there is light. And even if I have the eye if you are sleeping, you cannot know that there is light. So you have to have a I had must be light then there must be something which elements of both your eye under through that I elements. What is the light? So this light cannot illumine me. I have to repay. Oh, there is some If I don't choose to see the Sun for all practical purposes, the sun really does not exist. Such a tremendous truths, in Brahadaranyaka Upanishad I think it is a fourth part third chapter 3 whole section is called Swayam Jyothi Brahmana.
About which I will talk in my next class because all these are references to the Upanishads. So that Swayam Jyothi means: that Jyothi - that light- which doesn't require another light to to illuminate but without which no other light can be known –viz the Sun, the moon, the stars the fire all these things can never be known without that real Light. That is called it is light of the lights. Jyotira jyoti. And then when I come to know Lord bestow your grace. tumi tamo-bhañjana hâr – you alone is capable of destroying my darkness of ignorance.