Post Aarathi Talk 23 on 17th Dec 2017

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Sorry, remove the M from eating. Meetings end in what? Eating. Mostly it is eating only. Either eating food or eating somebody's words. So, very interesting development. Swami just talks, you know. How do we have any idea of God? What is the idea of God that we have? Simple question. How do you know God loves you? How do you know what is love? How did you understand what is love? How did you understand? What gives happiness? No, that is an effect. I am not asking about the effect of love. The knowledge of love, how do you get? You feel it. Really? Think over it. You know, there were three fellows. They wanted to have a test. What is the test? Whether what the fellow issues a statement is right or wrong, true or false. So, there was a machine, lie detector machine. It will tell. So, the first fellow, an American, he said, I think I can eat 100 hot dogs. First, when I came, I said, these fellows are so fond of hot dogs. I didn't understand what was hot dog. So, I think, immediately the lie detector, boom, like that it went. Second fellow was an Englishman. He said, I think I can eat 50 hamburgers. Boom, like that the lie detector. The other fellow, he started, I think, boom, the emotion is gone. I think it is a lie. For most people, we don't even think what we are talking about. How do we understand what is love, what is friendship, what is service, what is hatred? Because these are all abstract concepts. How do we understand? When it is expressed through somebody's actions. So, when we are babies, for example, our mother, she shows it by her touch, by her look, by her words, by her actions. So, then we have a concept, mother loves me. Then first comes experience, then comes words. A baby doesn't know if you say, do you love me, baby? It looks blank. Have you noticed it? You can test it. You can touch any baby and say, baby, I love you, and do you love me? It looks blank. And if you don't have any chocolate in your hand, it looks even more blank. What is this idiot talking about? But the moment the baby sees a chocolate, a sweetmeat, something, then the baby has a positive feeling. A special feeling which we interpret as a happy feeling, positive feeling. We call it what? Love. What is service? Love, expressed in a particular way, is called service. And it must accompany. Simply somebody says, I love you, I love you, but doesn't get up from the seat to do anything. Is this called love? It is called allow. Do you understand the English word allow? I am not talking the English word allow. I converted this English word love for Sanskrit word. You know in Sanskrit, whatever the word, if you add the prefix ah, it becomes the opposite. Shuchi, Ashuchi. So, tushti, atushti. Shanti, Ashanti. Very quickly this Ashanti word has come. So, love? Allow. So, we get this idea of anything. Somebody hates you. How do you know what is hatred? Because if a person says, I hate you, I hate you, but doesn't do anything, you will never understand. It is the action which makes us understand what is the feeling. Just as you go on declaring to somebody, I love you, I love you, I love you. Human beings are so stupid, you know. So irrational, so stupid. So, you are my dream girl. Dream girl is only girl in what? In the dream. How can in waking state she be a dream girl? That means what? He doesn't have any idea, foggiest notion, what he is talking about. You know so many songs? Dream girl, like that, go on talking about nonsense. And in dream every girl appears to be beautiful only. Because it is a dream. It is only the reality. Whatever little love you have, it evaporates at the very first contact. So, what is your concept of God? What is your concept of God? When a baby gets so much of love, care, protection, security from the mother, it has a first glimpse of the idea of what is God. Now, what is God? What is God? What is the difference between mother and God? Mother extended a billion times is called God. Do you understand now? Mother has small love and God has infinite love. And mother has small knowledge and God has all knowledge. Mother has small power, God has all power. So, even if mother beats, the child understands, it is for my good. That was the idea, that last, the fifth idea about God. What are the four ideas, if you still remember my talk? You know, what is your name? Joginder. What a beautiful name, not only Jogi, but Joginder. Joginder. Yeah, but beautiful names, Indians give beautiful names. One baby was named Padmalochana. He was squint-eyed. In Bengali it is, you know, it is a very common name. Padhalochan they call it in Bengali. What is your mother tongue? Punjabi. Punjabi. Indians, they deliberately give Gods and Goddesses. Male people get God's names and females get, so that at least everybody can remember God. Tell me the concept, is God male or female? You know, that is the silliest question I have ever encountered. He cannot be either male or female because maleness and femaleness is a limitation. If he is male, all the females will be non-devotees. If God is female, then all the males will be non-devotees. You understand now? He is neither female, gender doesn't arise at all. So go a little bit deeper. Gender always pertains to human body. You cannot even talk about, is love male or female? Is love male or female? Is existence male or female? Is friendliness male or female? Now you understand? So this is not a right question. Because it always says, he is the one who is looking after me. That is how we are brainwashed. That is because we in our practical day-to-day world do not deal everything as it. Either you have to say he, or you have to say she, or you have to say it. So we use the same thing, extend the same thing towards God. But that is not the correct thing because there is a beautiful example I want to tell from the gospel of Sri Ramakrishna. Once a monk wanted to know whether God is with form or without form. So he went to Puri. Puri, Jagannath? So this sanyasi had a danda, a staff, a stick, a big stick. Often the swamis, they carry a big stick to protect themselves from wild animals and devotees. You know devotees, they are the most troublesome people to any swami. So the swami went there and he wanted to know whether God is male or female. So he passed his staff from one side to the other side through the image. Because if God is with form, the stick will not pass. If he is with form, form means limitation. So he passed. And then the stick went right through the image. There was no, then he understood. This is God is without form. Then he wanted to make himself double sure. So again he tried to pass it from the left side to the right side. This time the stick got stuck. Then he understood that God has got form. So God is both with form and without form. Saguna and nirguna. This is the first thing we get in khandana, bhavabandana, jagavandana, vanditomaya, nirguna, gunamaya. Niranjana, nararupadhara, nirguna, gunamaya. He is with guna, without guna. He is sakara, he is nirakara. In fact you cannot describe what he is. But then why do we say he or she or it? Why do we say? Because we have limitation in ourselves. No, no, whatever concept we have about ourselves. We have the concept about God also. Suppose a dog is asked to think about God. How do you think a dog can imagine God? It is only dog. You know, these words dog and God are very closely related. It is the reverse of that song. True. One is an insomniac and dyslectic. Understand? Insomniac. In the relationship to sleep. Can't sleep. You know dyslectic. Difficulty in expressing. No, no, he doesn't have difficulty. He cannot see properly. He sees it like Urdu language. In the opposite. So once an insomniac dyslectic spent the whole night wondering whether there is a dog. Do you get it? Some people don't get it. Dyslectic means, when we use the word God, when a dyslectic thinks of God, he uses the word dog. You get it now? Yeah. So, if I think I am male, I cannot think of God as female. If I think I am human, I cannot think of God as other than. If I think I have certain qualities, I can think of God. Because whatever my mind is, I am looking at anything through the prism of my mind. So to the ridiculous extent that supposing you are a Krishna bhakta. Imagine you are a Krishna bhakta. So you are a great devotee of Krishna. Who was Krishna? A cowherd. Tender, raw cows. Cows means what? Cows means bulls, etc. This is what is called a Texan cowboy. So can you imagine Bhagavan Krishna in the form of a Texan cowboy and worship him with a cockney hat, a shotgun, and standing like this? On a horse. What is wrong? After all, you are Krishna. Which type of Krishna are you talking about? South Indian Krishna or North Indian Krishna? You see the painting? If it is South Indian, it is pure Ravi Varma's painting. If it is North Indian, somebody else's. You can see the face cut and say this is Mother Sita, pure Tamilian sari, etc. Pure Tamilian dress. Have you seen Chandika? Ravi Varma's painting. You know that Sita, Lakshmana, Bharat, Shatru, Jnana, Uma and Samhita? So do you get what I am talking about? If the painter is from North India, the face cut of God will be what? North Indian. That's why when Africans paint Jesus Christ, how do you think they paint Him? Thick nose, thick lips, kinky hair, and thick neck, and all those things. And a big bottom. And give that idea to any Italian Catholic, he will be horrified. Because when did Jesus grow such a big bottom? Kerala Krishna. Have you seen Kerala Krishna painting? My God, very black. North Indian Krishna is never black. Blue. Blue. Whereas Kerala Krishna, black, and very hefty fellow. Short, but very hefty. This is all human concept. There is no other way. This is what Swami Vivekananda wants to tell. If you are an ant, if you are asked to describe your concept of God, what do you think you will prescribe? I think it's your belief system and how you have been brought up, and what your parents believe in, and that's the way until you become an adult, and you have an open mind, and you research and go to other places. Even if you are an adult, most people, they are irrational. Most people? Irrational. So, it is not what we believe, that is mental level. But when we try to express our ideas, it has to come, either a painting or a sculpture or a music, these are called expressions. Your concept is within your mind. Belief is a concept. But when you want to express it, then it depends upon your concept of yourself. That means you make God in your image. Your mind is the mould. Whatever is there, it will be there. So, it leads to funny conclusions. If you are very kind, God will be infinitely kind. If you are powerful, God will be infinitely powerful. And if you are cruel, God will be infinitely cruel. And that is what Swami Vivekananda wanted to attack and say. Do not limit God, because if you limit God, and that is what we do, then you are violating the concept of God. God means unlimited. Unlimited means He can be imagined in any form, and there is a beautiful story, wonderful story. The stories are there to illustrate some point. Don't take it as whether they are historical, really happened. Don't ask about Puranas, Mahabharata, Ramayana, whether they really happened, that is not the real purpose of this. It is to teach us certain moral and spiritual lessons. So, Bhagavan Krishna was there in Vrindavan. There was an artist, painter, and it was his greatest desire to paint Krishna. So, he went to Krishna and said, Krishna, I would like to paint you. You can sit here. I would like to paint you. Krishna smiled and said, yes, yes, you can do it. So, the motive of the painter was that he would become very famous in that kingdom by painting Lord Krishna because he is the highest personality. So, several sittings, and the artist thought he did a very good job, and he announced it through the newspapers, TVs. Don't question any further whether there was a TV or not. It's a story. So, thousands of people came, TV people came, and they wanted. So, inauguration had to be done. And Krishna himself was invited to inaugurate. So, everybody came with all his crew. Krishna came smiling, and the time came. So, he removed that cloth which was hiding the painting, and everybody was shocked because there was absolutely not even the remotest resemblance between the painting and Krishna because Krishna changed his form. After the sitting, he changed his form. And people were looking at the artist, and this fellow's face fell down. It became black. I don't know. Sometimes I have a problem with this kind of description because he was a pure South Indian, and he was already black. How will you know his face became black? Anyway, mashallah, you know. So, the artist thought, I must have committed great blunder. So, the second time, he took permission from Krishna and painted. And again, the same thing happened. The third time, he thought, he painted again. The same thing happened. Every time, it is opened, Krishna himself unveils, and Krishna's face is totally different. And this artist was heartbroken. So, he came to the president of the Ramakrishna Order. He asked, What shall I do? How can I do? Every time this is happening. Remember? So, Ramakrishna Mission President, Come here. I like you. So, I will tell you this. He told something. So, immediately, the artist went back and announced, I am going to paint. This time, it will be exactly like that. And Krishna also came. This time, more people came to watch the fun. And Krishna came and opened. And it was exactly the same. Why? Because it was a mirror. Now, you change. Any number of times, I don't care. Because it will be the same. What is the symbolism of this story? Human mind is nothing but a mirror. So, if you are a human being, it will be a human mirror. If it is a cow's mind, it will be a cow's mirror. So, it will conceive of God only as a huge bull. If a bull were to be asked, what is your idea of God? Say, it is a huge bull and so powerful that no creature on earth can defeat. Like, you know, Krishna, one bull came and it is called a Vrishabhasura to kill Krishna when he was young in Gokula. And simply he caught hold of it and tore it apart. You know these stories. He killed so many Asuras. So, one donkey also he killed. Donkey. Then it is called Dhenukasura. What a beautiful story, you know. Dhenukasura. So, there was this Khichur. Khichur, you know Khichur? Khichur was growing there. So, the friends of Krishna, Krishna, it is the Khichur type. Very tasty. Dates. You know how this dating service started? These Middle East people, travellers, caravans, they used to meet at a vayasis. And vayasis means the dates will grow. So, man meets a woman and he gives one date. And that is how the dating service started. Dates. Khichur is famous for also another thing. You know what is that? Rasa. Rama Rasa. Punjabi. I went to attend in East India. One military, one Sardarji was the general. So, he invited us once for his party when we were visiting Arunachal Pradesh. Then we went there. And the man came with a tray. Maharajji, will you drink Somras or not? Somras. Wine. Liquor. So, this Somras, date rasam, you know. Palm juice we call it. They tap. And out of that only this jaggery is made. Good is made. Very tasty. And it has got a special flavor. In Bengal, they make special sweet, special payas. Northern Gurer. In our places also, at a particular season, they sell this, you know, it is a bit of whitish. The jaggery. Small cubes, jaggery cubes. Very tasty. Good. You never tasted? Good. No, no, good means not the ordinary sugarcane. It is a palm good. It is very special. It has a special flavor. Very nice smell as well. Flavor, don't say smell. Flavor. Fragrance. Fragrance, fragrance. Particular fragrance. It is very attractive. And at a particular season. Nowadays they keep it and sell it whole year. But this can be tapped only at a particular season. Anyway, what is the point we are talking about? That if you ask an ant, what is your concept of God? It says it is a huge ant. Most powerful ant. If it is a bull, God is a most powerful bull. So that means any creature that can extend its thinking power, God will be an extension of its idea. But it is the most powerful being in the whole world. This was what Swami Vivekananda wanted to bring out the idea and say don't ever say God looks like this. That is what is called fanaticism. That is what brings people into quarrel. So there was a very interesting experience. Once some university students came. They were Christians. Christians mean different Christians. There are Catholics, there are Protestants, there are Methodists. So this one particular girl was a Methodist. And very fanatical. So during the course of conversation, our Hindu idea is God is with form, without form, with name, without name, and infinite names, infinite forms, by whatever name you call, and he responds to it, provided we are devoted and sincere. So this girl was very fanatical. Accepting through Jesus there is no salvation. Then I posed a question. Suppose there are two people. One is a follower of Jesus. Another is an atheist. So this atheist says I don't believe in God. I don't believe in Jesus. But his whole life is practicing what Jesus taught. The follower of Jesus, he goes to church, he attends the service, but he never puts into practice the teaching of Jesus. Now who will get salvation? I asked, you know what was the reply? Only those who take the name of Jesus, that person will get. I said if this is the type of your thinking, then there can be no, what is called meaningful dialogue cannot happen. Meaningful dialogue. Because when two people want to speak with each other, then both must have some kind of rationality. Two irrational people speak. Like two deaf people meeting each other. Two deaf people met in the street. So one person, they were neighbours, one fellow asked, are you going to the market? The other fellow said, no, no, no, I am going to the market. And the fellow said, oh, I thought you were going to the market. It's like that. So our problem is, we are talking about the same thing, but we don't want to accept because of language. Ramakrishna illustrates, this is a beautiful illustration, analogy. There is a tank. Four sides, there are four, what we call ghats. You know ghat? The staircase where you go to get the water. So some people come through one ghat and they call it jal. Some people come and say, they say pani. Some people come and say it is aqua. Some people come and say it is water. And they started quarrelling, you are wrong, I am right. So this is the problem that is existing between various religions. Now, hopefully, they are coming to a better understanding. Hopefully, but there are fanatics. ISIS people, they kill more Muslims than they kill non-Muslims. Yeah, the conflict between the two. No, no, there is no conflict. It is like a businessman's philosophy. Once a young man was travelling in a train, and opposite him there was a businessman. So the businessman was waxing philosophy. What is life? It is give and take. The young man said, please explain. The businessman said, you give and I take. That is life. So these people, what they say, whatever I understand and tell you, that alone is right. So even if you are a Muslim, if you do not think like me, then you are not a Muslim, you are a kafir. So this is the problem going on. Ultimately, we are talking only about God. But whenever we are talking about God, we are using different names, different forms, and different philosophies. Dvaita, Visishta Dvaita, Advaita, all philosophies. But Shri Ramakrishna came and said, whatever philosophy you speak, your idea of what God and where He lives and what will happen to you when you reach there will be different. But the path is the same. You see, there is a mountain, Everest. From whichever side you approach, you have to go through the same problems, you know. At any level, your oxygen level will be the same. Just because you are approaching from Pakistan side, doesn't mean that you will have all oxygen only. So we are talking about the same God, but we are using different language. So this was illustrated beautifully by Shri Ramakrishna. There was a village, and there was a forest outside the village. And underneath one particular tree, a man, a sannyasi, used to live there. So one day, a man from the village went to that tree, and he saw a peculiar animal on the tree. And it was bright red. And then another man went, and he also saw the animal, but it was bright green. Another man saw bright yellow. Another man saw bright blue. Like that, different colors. So they all came and said, you know, I have seen an animal on that tree, and it is so red. The other man said, I also saw the same animal, but why do you say it is red? It is green, it is yellow, it is blue, it is white. They all started to quarrel. Then they decided, how to solve this problem? Let us go to the man who lives under that tree, so he should be having a better idea. So they went and asked, sir, have you seen this peculiar animal? He said, yes, yes, I see it 24 hours a day. 24 hours a day? That means he doesn't sleep. There is no darkness. So he said, I saw it many times, and who among us is right? He said, all of you are right, because sometimes it is red, sometimes it is green, sometimes it is yellow, sometimes it is blue, sometimes it is white, sometimes it doesn't have any color. It is called chameleon. You have heard about it, chameleon? It is like a lizard, chameleon or chameleon. So it changes its color and merges in the environment. Like camouflage. So Sriram Krishna gives this illustration, God is sometimes of this quality, that name, that form, sometimes He is formless also. And we stupid fellows go on quarreling about it. Anyway, this is what is needed in today's, whatever concept we have of God is only our concept. Because you can never really understand God unless you become God. The Guru Nanak, there is a beautiful story, you know, he never believed in God with form. He never believed in God, always, you know, nirakar, nirgun. And he sang like that, he composed songs like that, etc., etc. But that also Sriram Krishna doesn't approve because he says you are also right. When you say, when you describe God as without form, without qualities, you are right, nirankar. But when you say He doesn't have akara, you are wrong. Because He, as it were, takes the form which the devotee wants so that he can reach. Like, you know, if you have a small baby and the baby wants to play with you, what do you do? You go down to the... You know, you go to that level, you know, and then wants to play horse or dog or something. Mostly it is like, you know, one-way traffic. He wants to play horse. Who will be the horse? You are choiceless. You are the horse and he is the rider. Always the game ends like that. So, it is not that God has form, it is not that God is without form. Whatever you think of Him is like that. So there was a story. There was a wise man in a kingdom, very wise man. So people started revering him as a great man. But the king of that country was jealous. Why people are not honoring me? Why they are honoring him only? So he wanted to prove to people that after all your wise man is not so wise. Your wise man is otherwise. So one day he wanted to prove to everybody. So he called this wise man, he called everybody, and he wanted to prove that your wise man is not really wise. In what way? So he had something in his fist. And so he challenged the wise man, If you are so wise, tell me, whatever is in my fist, is it alive or is it dead? So he has a small insect there. If the man says it is alive, he will crush it and show everybody that it is dead. If the man says that it is dead, then he will not do anything. So either way... But the wise man was too wise for this otherwise. So you know what answer he gave? He said, as you wish. If you wish it to be alive, it will be alive. If you wish it to be dead, it will be dead. Of course the king could not do anything about it because that was the correct answer. So this is the Hindu philosophy, that God is inconceivable. But when you think about Him, you think about Him according to your power of understanding, your concept. And your concept depends upon your understanding. So if you think... you know what does that mean? That means your concept about yourself. And this applies not only to God, this applies to every being in the world. So you say this person is a thief. How do you know that person is a thief? Unless you are a thief, if you are not a thief, can you understand that person as a thief? Tell me. I think we are judgmental. No, no, the point is, if you are not a thief, if you have never stolen anything, can you understand the other person is a thief? You know, this is what happens, we supposedly grown up people, supposedly to have rationality, suppose a small child, he sees some food material, and it doesn't belong to your house. You know, you take the child to your neighbor's house, and then you take it there, and he sees some food hidden somewhere, but they have to smell, you know, straight. And so the other person will say, oh, you are a thief, because you are a thief. That's what we say. Krishna has stolen. But devotees are peculiar. Devotees of Krishna. They give the title hundred times, you are a makhan chor, oh, I am singing about it, and offering more makhan. Very happy to give the title. Does the child know that I am stealing? Not only that, suppose the child has something, and some person comes and steals it, does the child know that a thief entered and has taken, stolen? All that he knows is, somebody has taken. But whether he is a thief, or whether it is mother has taken, father has taken, a stranger has taken, there is no discrimination. Do you see what I mean? So if you ask the child that some thief has come, he looks blank at you and says, what is a thief? And even to understand what I am discussing is very difficult for most of us. Now you understand? You will not know who is a thief, if you are not a thief. Anyway, it's a nice story, you know. One day, a priest, after completing the church service, he was walking home. Suddenly he encounters a number of boys, youngsters, you know, playing a game. And there was a ruckus, big noise and shouting and all that. The priest looked at it, he could not understand what was the game they were playing. So he asked, children, what is the game you are playing? There was some very nice thing in the middle. He said, father, we are playing, padri, padri, we are playing. Who can tell the biggest lie, he will get the prize. Who can tell the biggest lie, he will get the prize. The priest was horrified. And he said, what type of game is this? When we were young, we never knew such type of games. All of the boys said, the prize goes to father. For telling the biggest lie. Let me tell one joke, you know. A Hindu priest and a rabbi and a politician, they were friends, they were travelling. And suddenly their car broke down at night. It was chilly, it was rainy. And they had no option but to get out and they found out a farmer's house. They went and explained their condition. And they said, can we take shelter in your home tonight? The farmer said, you are welcome, mine is a very small house. I have a spare room. But only problem is, only two people can stay in my spare room. But the third person has to stay in the barn. They are animals. So if you are agreeable, you are most welcome. So then a debate came. Who will be staying in the barn? So the Hindu priest said, that I don't mind suffering one night. I can go and stay. You two people go and stay in the room. And so he went to the barn. And these people settled in that small... were about to settle. Suddenly there was a knock at the door. And they opened. They phoned the Hindu priest. He was sweating. He said, you know, there is a holy cow. And it is a sin to live in the same house as a holy cow. Otherwise you are scared. So the rabbi said, I don't mind. So he went out. After a few minutes, there was this knock. The rabbi was saying, you know, there is a pig there. And I cannot live without a pig. It is the unholiest animal according to Jews. So I am sorry. And the politician said, for the good of the world, I don't mind staying there. So he went. After a few minutes, there was a knock. They opened. There was a cow on the balcony. OK. OK. You know how you are saying, if you are calling somebody a thief or recognising it, you have got the same quality. On the other side, if you are attracted to a good quality in a person, or you feel that you can understand or you can... Anything. If you don't have goodness, you cannot recognise a good man. If you don't have devotion, you cannot understand who is a devotee. So it applies to good or bad, any quality, unless we know how do you recognise. But most of us do not think you know. That is the problem. That is why Swamiji gives this illustration. A husband, wife and his child were in a room. At midnight, a man entered through a window. The parents are shouting, a thief had entered. But the baby is not shouting. The baby thinks he is a stranger. He is afraid. But he has no concept that this is a thief. Anyway, one day an ophthalmologist was sitting in his office and suddenly a man entered. And as soon as the man came, the doctor said, My God, your eyesight is the worst I have ever seen in my life. The man was astounded. Doctor, how did you know? Because you have not even examined my eyes. How did you know that I have the worst eyesight? The man said, When I saw that you were entering through the window. So that is the truth. You can only see. Even if you want to understand a book, you can only understand if you have some concept. Then with the help of that concept you can imagine more. That is why today we were telling, if you are having some compassion, then you have a concept of God. Your small compassion multiplied infinitely is called God. If you are existing for 50 years or 100 years, you multiply it, that existence, that is called God. That means God will have no death. He is infinitely, eternally existing. If you are here, you have a concept here, then multiply it, infinite here, which is called infinity. So this is how God is a multiplication of what we already know. And if we understand it, then there will be no religious quarrels at all. You know why? Because we are quarrelling because of some fixed ideas that God can be only this. Which brings me to another beautiful story. One day, one night, one evening, a woman wanted to enter into a church to attend the service. A Christian woman. But she was known as a sinner. The priest did not allow her to enter into the church. Two, three times she attempted. She requested them that, I want to pray to God. But they said, no, you are a sinner. You will not be allowed. So in despondency, she was walking. And suddenly, what did she find? To her great shock, Jesus Christ himself was walking up and down. So she ran to him and said, Lord, Lord, did you see this injustice? They are not allowing me to enter into the church. So Jesus put his hand on her shoulders and said, My child, what can I do? They don't allow me also to enter into the church. That's what priests do. That is what every priest or mullah. That is why we say the problem is not Islam. The problem is mullah, the quarrel between mullah and Allah. Because the mullah will neither allow the devotee to meet Allah, neither allow Allah to meet the devotee. He will stand in between and want to separate them. So both are suffering. When do avatars take birth? Clear? Bhagavad Gita? Whenever humanity loses its sight, what is good for it? Not one or two persons. Large number of people. Then God incarnates and gives a right idea about what is life about, what is the goal of life, what is the way to attain God, and that is when He comes. So if you wish to bring down God, lead a very sinful life. Isn't it enough at this moment in time? No. No? Some more to come. Because He came already. We believe that He came as Krishna, He came as Rama, He came as Buddha, He came as Jesus, He came as Chaitanya, I would say He came as Guru Nanak, He came as Ramakrishna, He came as Vivekananda. What is the point if you don't follow them? He has given you food. But you are simply saying, without touching that food, give me food. It is there. Food is there. For another thousand years, He is not going to give any more food. Either you take it or you leave it. But we are foolish people, you know. Suppose He comes, what will you do? Not recognize Him. Because you can't recognize Him. He has already come so many times, He will come again. That is the idea. All right. Thank you. Where is Chensri today? Mumbai. Oh, she is in India. She is in India. Kids are in Chennai. Oh. I am going next week. When are they coming? Ok, Neelam. India opens on Thursday. Oh, how come?