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	= A Discourse on the Origins and Nature of Hinduism =		= A Discourse on the Origins and Nature of Hinduism =

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	'''Om, peace, peace, peace be unto all.'''		'''Om, peace, peace, peace be unto all.'''
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Vamsimarri: Created page with "= A Discourse on the Origins and Nature of Hinduism = == Opening Prayer == ॐ असतो मा सद्गमय तमसो मा ज्योतिर्गमय मृत्योर्मा अमृतं गमय ॐ शान्तिः शान्तिः शान्तिः हरिः ॐ Asato mā sadgamaya, Tamaso mā jyotirgamaya, Mṛtyormā amṛtaṃ gamaya Hari ḥ Om Lord, lead us from the unreal to the real. Lead us from igno..."

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Created page with "= A Discourse on the Origins and Nature of Hinduism = == Opening Prayer == ॐ असतो मा सद्गमय तमसो मा ज्योतिर्गमय मृत्योर्मा अमृतं गमय ॐ शान्तिः शान्तिः शान्तिः हरिः ॐ Asato mā sadgamaya, Tamaso mā jyotirgamaya, Mṛtyormā amṛtaṃ gamaya Hari ḥ Om Lord, lead us from the unreal to the real. Lead us from igno..."

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	=== An Example from Śrī Rāmakṛṣṇa's Life ===		=== An Example from Śrī Rāmakṛṣṇa's Life ===
	Let me give an example from Śrī Rāmakṛṣṇa's life itself. Śrī Rāmakṛṣṇa was practicing intense spiritual disciplines at Dakshineswar, and it so appeared that he became mad. His mother got worried and she called him back, recalled him back to Kamarpukur. What was she doing? What did she do? She invited some ~~musicians~~ and mantrikas who had control of some demigods and asked, "What is wrong with my son?" And it is not mumbo-jumbo really—it worked.		Let me give an example from Śrī Rāmakṛṣṇa's life itself. Śrī Rāmakṛṣṇa was practicing intense spiritual disciplines at Dakshineswar, and it so appeared that he became mad. His mother got worried and she called him back, recalled him back to Kamarpukur. What was she doing? What did she do? She invited some Magicians and mantrikas who had control of some demigods and asked, "What is wrong with my son?" And it is not mumbo-jumbo really—it worked.

	So they invoked the gods and the demigods, and they came and they said there is nothing wrong. They had correct knowledge that your son is a very spiritual person. It is not derangement of the brain.		So they invoked the gods and the demigods, and they came and they said there is nothing wrong. They had correct knowledge that your son is a very spiritual person. It is not derangement of the brain.
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	So even today we invite so many ghosts and other things. In fact, one of the most blockbuster films was made on this concept. What am I talking about? ''The Exorcist''.		So even today we invite so many ghosts and other things. In fact, one of the most blockbuster films was made on this concept. What am I talking about? ''The Exorcist''.

	In case there are some of you who think you are very rational, in case you think that these are all figments of the human brain, do not forget that in Śrī Rāmakṛṣṇa's life there are several evidences. Just to remind you, when Śrī Rāmakṛṣṇa visited ~~Gopala Erma~~'s house, he saw some spirits there. Swami Vivekananda, Swami Brahmananda, many direct disciples had seen them. Even Swami Vireshwarananda had seen them.		In case there are some of you who think you are very rational, in case you think that these are all figments of the human brain, do not forget that in Śrī Rāmakṛṣṇa's life there are several evidences. Just to remind you, when Śrī Rāmakṛṣṇa visited Gopaler ma's house, he saw some spirits there. Swami Vivekananda, Swami Brahmananda, many direct disciples had seen them. Even Swami Vireshwarananda had seen them.

	Now the point I am trying to make is not merely the establishment of ghosts. That is one of the factors. Why is it important for us? Because it shows life doesn't end with this sixty years of our living here. It extends beyond. By extension, by implication, it also means that we are also immortal somehow. The fall of this body is only a change of state and nothing more than that.		Now the point I am trying to make is not merely the establishment of ghosts. That is one of the factors. Why is it important for us? Because it shows life doesn't end with this sixty years of our living here. It extends beyond. By extension, by implication, it also means that we are also immortal somehow. The fall of this body is only a change of state and nothing more than that.
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	== The Hindu Approach to Divinity ==		== The Hindu Approach to Divinity ==
	I will give one instance again from Hindu religion. Hindus worship many, many gods and goddesses. In fact, Hindus manufacture gods and goddesses. Who is great? Śrī Rāmakṛṣṇa was not a god before ~~1936~~. Was he a god? Nobody knew about him. He was born only in 1836, and then he was born and then he was recognized, and then he became—now, see, millions and millions worship him. See, we made him God!		I will give one instance again from Hindu religion. Hindus worship many, many gods and goddesses. In fact, Hindus manufacture gods and goddesses. Who is great? The Manufactured or the manufacturer? Śrī Rāmakṛṣṇa was not a god before 1836. Was he a god? Nobody knew about him. He was born only in 1836, and then he was born and then he was recognized, and then he became—now, see, millions and millions worship him. See, we made him God!

	=== Sat-Cit-Ānanda ===		=== Sat-Cit-Ānanda ===
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	== Priests and Intermediaries ==		== Priests and Intermediaries ==
	Now we have covered the essential points, excepting I want to mention two other points with regard to this. He said origins of religions began with the worship of nature, worship of the ancestors. Now, human beings are always—there are clever human beings—they want power. They interpose themselves in between ordinary human beings and these so-called higher powers and say, "Look, we somehow have a hotline, we have somehow a communication, and why do you want to go to so much trouble? You pay me a little bit of fee and I will do your work for you." That is, all that I need is a little bit of payment. These are called ~~musicians~~, you know.		Now we have covered the essential points, excepting I want to mention two other points with regard to this. He said origins of religions began with the worship of nature, worship of the ancestors. Now, human beings are always—there are clever human beings—they want power. They interpose themselves in between ordinary human beings and these so-called higher powers and say, "Look, we somehow have a hotline, we have somehow a communication, and why do you want to go to so much trouble? You pay me a little bit of fee and I will do your work for you." That is, all that I need is a little bit of payment. These are called magicians, you know.

	=== Modern Equivalents ===		=== Modern Equivalents ===
	Even today, if you think the idea of a ~~musician~~ has gone out of order, forget about it. Faith healers and there are, you know, any number of these. And suppose, you know, some student, the son of a devotee, tomorrow examination is there—what do you think? Today they will bring rasa-gullās to me. I say, "You never fed rasa-gullās in the past to me. Suddenly why this so much devotion?" And immediately I come to know: "Swamiji, tomorrow my son is appearing for the exam. Will you please pray to God?" I say, "Certainly I will pray to God." I never said he is going to pass or fail. I say, "I am going to pray,		Even today, if you think the idea of a magicians has gone out of order, forget about it. Faith healers and there are, you know, any number of these. And suppose, you know, some student, the son of a devotee, tomorrow examination is there—what do you think? Today they will bring rasa-gullās to me. I say, "You never fed rasa-gullās in the past to me. Suddenly why this so much devotion?" And immediately I come to know: "Swamiji, tomorrow my son is appearing for the exam. Will you please pray to God?" I say, "Certainly I will pray to God." I never said he is going to pass or fail. I say, "I am going to pray,

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	I will pray." But the result depends upon your son's efforts and also God's grace.		I will pray." But the result depends upon your son's efforts and also God's grace.
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	=== Shamans and Priests ===		=== Shamans and Priests ===
	So this is one idea: priests. Priesthood and ~~musicians~~ or shamans are closely interrelated. So what they do is, they claim they have special powers. But then what they say is, "This is not my power. My power comes from worshipping a particular demon or ghost or god or goddess. So you pay me the proper fees. I will contact my boss, and my boss, I can assure you, will give you the promotion or whatever it is." We have not lost that idea. These are all stages in the religious growth we have to accept.		So this is one idea: priests. Priesthood and Magicians or shamans are closely interrelated. So what they do is, they claim they have special powers. But then what they say is, "This is not my power. My power comes from worshipping a particular demon or ghost or god or goddess. So you pay me the proper fees. I will contact my boss, and my boss, I can assure you, will give you the promotion or whatever it is." We have not lost that idea. These are all stages in the religious growth we have to accept.

	So the first idea is a musician or shaman, and these ~~musicians~~ or shamans have become, in a way of speaking in the history of religious development, a kind of what is called separated beings outside society. They don't fall into any category. They are feared, more feared than respected. But gradually, as people became accustomed to it, then these ~~musicians~~ slowly assumed a regular post. They have become—what was their temporary post has become confirmed as permanent post, and they assumed the name of a priest.		So the first idea is a musician or shaman, and these Magicians or shamans have become, in a way of speaking in the history of religious development, a kind of what is called separated beings outside society. They don't fall into any category. They are feared, more feared than respected. But gradually, as people became accustomed to it, then these Magicians slowly assumed a regular post. They have become—what was their temporary post has become confirmed as permanent post, and they assumed the name of a priest.

	So these are some of the ideas that have come.		So these are some of the ideas that have come.

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